Last Second Goal was a Split Second Late

Norway’s last second goal against South Korea in the semifinals put them through to the Gold Medal game. According to this photo that has surfaced on the internet, however, the ball had failed to fully cross the goal line prior to time expiring. The Koreans protested and requested that the game continue at the overtime point. The IHF has rejected this protest on the grounds that it was a “factual decision.”

[b]Link to photo of shot[/b]: http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=beijing2008&no=29bcc427b48777a16fb3dab004c86b6f0cb660735f0b8827253bc98cb2be5c4b7b4d4ea03c6140e955a57f6210bac572b41a993534c5b54f66d1e111f2801c8b7cd7c0a5b826b5ac21be4593248050dc6ee05ea6831185a9&f_no=7fed807eb58a6af73fed87ec45807d6f82bdcc058b6732258a7cfe96c0c1

[b]IHF note on Korean Protest: [/b] http://www.ihf.info/front_content.php?idcat=269&idart=1550

[b]Editor’s note[/b]: I’m not a lawyer, but when I hear the term “factual decision” intuitively it means to me that something is a fact and it can’t be disputed. Whereas in this case, it seems to me that the referees actually made a “judgment call” which was a split second wrong. If anyone can chime in with what factual decision means in this instance please do so in the comments section

[b]Addendum: [/b]According to this press report, the Koreans staged a 20 minute sit-in after the match: http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/S-Korea-women–s-handball-team-stages-sit-in-after-semi-loss/351683/

The politiks of handball

This is one presidential debate topic I’d pay to watch.

McCain versus Obama on how to revive the most American sport Americans don’t know about.

Team handball still lacks an identity among all other US Olympic sports, so obsessed with medals and cereal box endorsements.
With all the increased television and NBCOlympics.com web coverage, handball – as it is known worldwide — picked up its fair share of new American fans, US Women’s Softball Team notwithstanding.

With Election Day just months away, who better to chart the course of this great sport than the two presidential candidates.
Here is the setup: One moderator: Me! Each candidate has three minutes to answer the question and another thirty seconds for a closing statement.
Question: What would you do once elected President of the United States, to further the development of the great American sport Americans know nothing about – team handball?

Senator McCain: “ Bogdan, thank you for having me here today. It’s an honor to come before you and the American sport fans. I’ll be honest with you. Cindy and I are new to this sport. We fell in love with it the moment we watched the France Women lose to the Russians in Tuesday’s Quarterfinal showdown in Beijing. Immediately following the game I asked my staff to provide me with a report on handball. They came up empty. What I got was some generic hand ball stuff. You know, four walls, a small tiny ball… Not what I wanted to hear. Look, I want this sport to grow and my fellow Republicans share my vision. I am committed to signing a team handball stimulus plan as soon as I take office in January 2009. Simultaneously, I will seek the creation of a new professional team handball league with TV coverage similar to that of the Arena Football League. I love the AFL! It's so much fun. Now! Anyone interested in purchasing a team handball franchise will be eligible to receive a one time, very sizeable, tax credit incentive. America needs team handball and all business leaders must see to it that team handball is given to every single American man, woman or child. I see this as another way to jumpstart our economy! It’s a win/win situation. Additionally, under my plan, the US will be able to field a Gold medal (men and women) team handball contender – by 2012 (in London). We have tremendous athletes in this country. I am certain that we can find 14 men and women — sorry, my adviser tells me that there are 16 players in a handball team — 16 players, who can practice together for a few months and capture a Gold medal during the next five rings go-around.”

Senator Obama: “ Wow! I must admit that I am hooked on this great sport as well. See, John and I do agree on certain things… Bogdan, I have to say that developing this great American sport will not be easy. I disagree with Senator McCain. Pumping money into a sport that our children cannot relate to, is silly. We need more time, to nurture and to grow this sport, one child, one school at a time. A sport like team handball must be taught at the most elementary level and from a very early age. For example, dribbling a handball is vastly different than dribbling a basketball. These skills take time to master and the only sound and responsible way to do it is through grass roots efforts. Reaching out to our communities! Empowering those in charge with the knowledge and the means to become teachers and leaders. Handing money to the rich, in hopes that they have the business acumen to spend it wisely and with good results, will not work anymore. We have long lacked accountability and, Bogdan, the only way we can make this great American sport well… American, is through bipartisan support. We must hire qualified team handball expert professionals, with a proven track record, who will teach others the technical nuances of this sport. Conversely, we should encourage the business sector to financially subsidize the development and growth of this sport. We need a vision. And we need to stick to that vision. My family loves team handball. I played it once at Oprah’s house. After the game each player went home with his/hers own team handball court. Can you believe it? Oprah gave away 32 team handball courts. It was crazy!”

Bogdan Pasat: “Any closing remarks?”

Senator Obama: “This is not a democrat or republican or independent issue. Team Handball is an American issue and we should join forces once and for all. Accept that the future starts today for team handball. I think the US could and should win a medal in this sport in the distant future. Let’s see to it. Adopt a school! Show a kid a wing shot. Put your cigarette down and teach your son’s friends the 3-2-1 defense.”

Bogdan Pasat: “Senator McCain?”

Senator McCain: “We don’t have time for grass roots. Look at soccer. It’s been what, 20 years? It is not a popular sport. Baseball, basketball, football, golf, even bowling is more popular. We need Team Handball on TV. Having team handball on TV during the Olympics made all the difference in the world! Americans love it. They want it and they want it now. Let’s put our money where our team handball aspirations are.”

There you have it folks. Come Nov 3rd you can vote FOR team handball.
Next week I will sit down with the VP candidates, whomever they’ll be.

An Improbable Run that Almost Never Happened

This blog post gives away the result of one of the quarterfinals so click on "read the rest" for the story.

The South Korean Men were not expected to advance to the quarterfinals. Instead they surprised many observers by winning their Group with victories over European sides Denmark and Iceland. Alas, their dreams of medaling were dashed by a veteran Spanish squad in the quarterfinals. But, what is perhaps even more remarkable is that they wouldn’t even have been in Beijing at all, if it weren’t for the unprecedented decision by an arbitration court earlier this year. In a nutshell, a fixed match at the Asian Olympic Qualification Tournament had given Kuwait the Asian slot at the Olympics. It was only through the proliferation of a Korean News report of the tournament posted on the internet that a groundswell movement was started to replay the Asian tournament.

[b]Arbitration Report resulting in Korea going to the Olympics: [/b]https://teamhandballnews.com/news.php?item.535
[b]Korean News Report:[/b] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-908556008345758262

Oh, and how about another remarkable fact about the Korean Handball. Their squad features the all-time leading scorer in the German Bundesliga: https://teamhandballnews.com/news.php?item.507

Protest filed after Women’s Quarterfinal Match

As some of you may be planning to watch the match on NBC rewind, please click “read the rest” for the story.

[b]French Protest Following Double Overtime Loss is Rejected by IHF[/b]

The French Handball Federation filed an official protest following their double overtime 32-31 loss to Russia and sough a replay of the match. This protest was rejected by the IHF and France will now play for 5th place

Specifically, the French protested two calls made by the Chinese referees. The first claim relates to the free throw awarded to the French as time expired in the first half of the 2nd overtime period. The complaint is that the free throw call was too slow and that the Russian were allowed two changes in personnel after time expired. Previously, this was allowed and team would always send in their tallest players to form the wall at 6 meters. This rule has since been changed to not allow substitutions.

The second claim was that a free throw should have been awarded a the very end of the game when Veronique Pecqueux-Roland was fouled. The French Federation reports that a decision will be made by Noon on Wednesday.

The plays in question can be reviewed at the NBC website. Additionally, after the match French head coach, Olivier Krumbholz can be seen complaining to the IHF Chairman of Playing Rules and Competition (PRC), American Christer Ahl. The audio is hard to hear, but sounds like “Incroyable!…They’re professionals; working for all year for this….”

[b]Commentary: [/b] The French appear to have a case for the first complaint as the substitutions shouldn’t have been allowed. Shorter players on the wall can make a difference as was proven in the Denmark-Russia match. The second claim is strictly a judgment call and from my perspective it may have been a 9 meter, but it also could have been a charge. Together, these calls do not warrant a replay, which would be totally impractical anyway. When would you play it and how fair would it be with the other semifinal team resting?

Underlying all of this, however, is a legitimate question as to why a pair of Chinese referees officiating such a critical match. China does not have a strong handball tradition and by inference it’s usually a good assumption that correspondingly, the officials from a non traditional handball nation are not as good and lacking in experience. This is, of course, an inference and there are exceptions to this rule of thumb. I haven’t watched the whole match, so I can’t rate their overall performance. Bogdan Pasat, however, saw the entire match and felt that the Chinese pair actually did a respectable job and made some good tough calls in the overtime period. His bottom line was that the officials were not a factor in the outcome of this match.

[b]NBC “rewind” of France-Russia Match:[/b] http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=1348182&channelcode=sporthb
[b]French notes on Protest: [/b]
http://www.femmesdedefis.com/info/news.php?id_news=230
http://www.femmesdedefis.com/info/news.php?id_news=234

Men’s Olympic Quarterfinals (Wed 20 August; Tue Night/Wed Morning in USA)

[b]Quarter-Final Start Times and Point Spreads[/b]
1200 France (-4.5) vs. Russia Video: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=hb1h-bj-sd01-082008-115002&channelcode=sporthb
1415 Iceland vs. Poland (-1.5) Video: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=hb1h-bj-sd01-082008-140503&channelcode=sporthb
1800 Croatia vs. Denmark (-0.5) Video: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=hb1h-bj-sd01-082008-175004&channelcode=sporthb
2015 South Korea vs. Spain (-2) Video: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=hb1h-bj-sd01-082008-200504&channelcode=sporthb

– MSNBC is scheduled to show a portion of one quarter final match from 9:45a-11:00a Wednesday (USA East Coast Time)

Below are the most current odds to win the Olympic Tournament
(Note: pre-tournament odds are in parentheses)
France: 1.25 to 1 (2.75 to 1)
Denmark: 4 to 1 (3.5 to 1)
Spain: 5 to 1 (9 to 1)
Poland: 10 to 1 (17 to 1)
Croatia: 11 to 1 (6 to 1)
Iceland: 20 to 1 (66 to 1)
South Korea: 28 to 1 (1000 to 1)
Russia: 50 to 1 (50 to 1)

The bookmakers are clearly saying that this is France’s tournament. Pool B is also perceived as weaker than pool A, as 3 of the 4 teams from Pool A are favored in the quarterfinal crossovers.

Somewhere, perhaps is Seoul, someone with a South Korea "to win Group B" ticket is smiling. Not sure what the odds were, but a guess is that it was in the neighborhood of 200 to 1. The bottom bracket of the 8 team tournament (Iceland v Poland; South Korea v Spain) is wide open. Only Spain was expected to compete for a medal, now one of those teams will play for Gold.

Olympic Prediction Contests

We've added a Men's tournament prediction at bracketmaker.com

You will need to register with the bracketmaker site first. Then you can click on "predict it" to enter your picks. 1 point is awarded for each correctly picked quarterfinal game, 2 points for the semifinals and 4 points for the final.

Men's Contest: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=289773
Women's Contest: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=289667

Women's Quarter Finals (Tuesday 19 August, Mon Night/Tue Morning in USA)

[b]Quarter-Final Start Times and Point Spreads (Beijing Time)[/b]
1200 Norway (-5) vs. Sweden
1415 Romania (-3.5) vs. Hungary
1800 South Korea vs. China (No line posted)
2015 Russia (-5.5) vs. France

– The “USA Network” Cable channel is scheduled to show a portion of one quarter final match from 9:45a-10:15a (USA East Coast Time)

Below are the most current odds to win the Olympic Tournament from bestbetting.com
(Note: pre-tournament odds are in parentheses)
Norway: 1.75 to 1 (2.5 to 1)
Russia: 2 to 1 (1.25 to 1)
South Korea: 4 to 1 (16 to 1)
Romania: 7 to 1 (4.5 to 1)
Hungary: 33 to 1 (10 to 1)
France: 99 to 1 (40 to 1)
China: 149 to 1 (200 to 1)
Sweden: 149 to 1 (100 to 1)

As can be seen by the changing odds, Norway and South Korea’s performance in Group Play has improved their odds, while Russia’s stock has gone down slightly.

We are GO for LIVE team handball commentary! – Day1

I couldn't wait until tomorrow so I made my NBCOlympics.com online commentary debut earlier this evening with Spain vs. Brazil.
Let me address some of your concerns.
– The REWIND feature will be available until mid September. So, for those of you "time shifting", you should have two additional weeks to catch up on a foregone conclusion. :) NBC Universal will eventually take ownership of all Beijing Olympics video content (handball as well), archive it and make it available on line for free. Pretty neat stuff.
– I have agreed to do team handball post game wrapups on the NBCOlympics.com website, instead of the generic AP wire stories.
– Those of you in charge of your club's websites, please update their content, freshen them up. The NBCOlympics.com website is approaching 1 billion hits and many of them will be for team handball.
– I will be covering the Russia vs. South Korea and Germany vs. Denmark games as they are the only games left with play off implications.

Brits Jump on Handball Media Bandwagon

Not to be outdone, by the USA media blitz, a couple of stories in the British press have focused on Handball and the British preparations for the 2012 games. The BBC article is particularly interesting in light of the several quotes from players and coaches from established Handball nations concerning the British program.

BBC: Never mind the golds, let’s hear it for handball: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/never_mind_the_golds_lets_hear.html
The Northern Echo(UK): Games offers a helping hand to minority sports: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/3599285.Games_offers_a_helping_hand_to_minority_sports/

Olympic Handball Prediction Contest

Think you know your Olympic Handball? Fill out your bracket for the Women's 8 team knockout tournament here:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=289667

You will need to register with the bracketmaker site first. Then you can click on "predict it" to enter your picks. 1 point is awarded for each correctly picked quarterfinal game, 2 points for the semifinals and 4 points for the final.

No prizes this time around other than bragging rights.

Men’s Group Play (Round 5) (Mon, 18 August) (Sun Night/Sat Morning in USA)

[b]Scheduled Matches (Beijing Local Time)[/b]
0900-1030 Match 1: Iceland vs. Egypt
1045-1215 Match 2: Spain vs. Brazil
1400-1530 Match 3: Russia vs. South Korea
1545-1715 Match 4: Croatia vs. China
1900-2030 Match 5: Denmark vs. Germany **MSNBC Monday 12:30p-1:30p (Eastern Time US)
2045-2215 Match 6: Poland vs. France

[b]Video Links:[/b] http://www.nbcolympics.com/handball/video/index.html
Suggested match(es) to watch: Based on match results, video we’ve seen and feedback from other Handball news sites we will suggest the top match of the day to watch.

[b]Standings: [/b] http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/HB/C76/HBM400000.shtml#HBM400A01

[b]Group A (Standings thru 4 Rounds)[/b]
Rank Team Pts MP W T L GF GA Diff
1 France 8 4 4 0 0 118 85 33
2 Poland 6 4 3 0 1 117 98 19
3 Croatia 4 4 2 0 2 107 93 14
4 Spain 4 4 2 0 2 116 110 6
5 Brazil 2 4 1 0 3 94 117 -23
6 China 0 4 0 0 4 82 131 -49

[b]Scenarios for Group A Seeding:[/b]
– China: They are locked into 6th place
– Brazil: A win over Spain would give them 4th place.
– Spain: Needs a win or draw against Brazil for 4th place. They could place higher depending on tiebreakers with Poland and/or Croatia
– Croatia: Assuming a win vs. China, they will be 2nd, 3rd, or 4th depending on tiebreakers with Spain and/or Poland
– Poland: Will take 1st if they beat France, otherwise it will depend on tiebreakers with Spain and/or Croatia
– France: Will take 1st with a win or draw against Poland. If they lose they will take 2nd

[b]Group B (Standings thru 4 Rounds)[/b]
Rank Team Pts MP W T L GF GA Diff
1 Korea 6 4 3 0 1 100 100 0
2 Iceland 5 4 2 1 1 119 114 5
3 Germany 5 4 2 1 1 105 103 2
4 Denmark 4 4 1 2 1 110 110 0
5 Russian Fed. 3 4 1 1 2 107 109 -2
6 Egypt 1 4 0 1 3 95 100 -5

[b]Scenarios for Group B Seeding:[/b]
Editor‘s Note: Updated after the Iceland – Egypt draw in the first match on Monday
– Egypt: 6th place
– Russia/Denmark/Germany: If Russia beats South Korea, then the results of Denmark-Germany will determine who goes home in 5th place. If Germany beats Denmark, Denmark will get 5th place. If Denmark beats Germany, Germany will get 5th place (assuming that Russia has made up the 4 goals in overall total goal differential. (Germany and Russia had a draw in their match and the next tiebreaker is Goal Differential in all matches played.) And, conspiracy theory alert, if there is a draw between Denmark and Germany, Russia will get 5th place. Although, as has been pointed out in the Kometal forum, Denmark will be highly motivated to win and avoid 4th place and its likely matchup against France.
– Iceland/Korea: These teams are through to the next round and their final seeding involves several scenarios.

[b]Betting lines: [/b] According to betting comparison site, bestbetting.com, these are the point spreads for Sunday’s matches: Iceland (-2.5), Spain (-6.5), Russia (-1.5), Croatia (-11.5), Denmark (-0.5), and France (-3.5)