USA Team Handball Makes a Coaching Change for its Women’s Beach Handball Program (Some Questions Regarding Need, Timing and Process)

Former USA Beach Handball Women’s Coach, Juliano De Oliveira.

Earlier this week USA Team Handball announced the appointment of Lisa Dunn to be the new Women’s Beach Handball Head Coach and Michi Mensing to the Asst Coach position.  Left unsaid, however, was that Juliano De Oliveira, the Head Coach since 2016 had been “let go”, fired, or not renewed (pick your description). 

De Oliveira did get a mention though for having “laid the foundation for the program” and indeed that’s the case as he took the helm of a pretty much non-existent, dormant program in 2016 and under his helm it has been established as North America’s best Women’s Beach Handball side and one that is now respected on the world stage.

Here’s a review of what the U.S. Women’s team has accomplished in the four major tournaments they have participated in under his watch.

Juliano De Oliveira Coaching Record

2018 Pan American Championships
– Match Record: 2-4
– Games Record: Not Available
– Final Ranking: 6th out of 8 Teams

2018 World Championships
– Match Record: 1-8
– Games Record (Non Shoot Out Matches): 2-16
– Games Record (Shoot Out Matches): 0-0
– Points Differential (Non Shoot Out Matches): 213-338 (-125)
– Final Ranking: 14th out of 16 Teams

2019 North American and Caribbean Championships
– Match Record: 6-0
– Games Record (Non Shoot Out Matches): 12-0
– Games Record (Shoot Out Matches): 0-0
– Final Ranking: 1st out of 8 Teams

2019 World Beach Games
– Match Record:  2-5
– Games Record (Non Shoot Out Matches): 6-8
– Games Record (Shoot Out Matches): 0-2
– Points Differential (Non Shoot Out Matches): 224-240 (-16)
– Final Ranking: 10th out of 12 Teams

A review of these results makes it pretty clear there’s been some solid progress.   A team that wasn’t very competitive in 2018 turned it around in 2019.  A clear sign of progress was their dominating performance at the 2019 North American Championships.  A weaker field than the Pan American Championships the year before, but they left no doubt that they were the best team in the new Confederation. 

Arguably, more telling was the better performance on the world stage.  In two similar events (2018 World Championships and 2019 World Beach Games) the Final Ranking wasn’t much different (10th out of 12 vs 14th out of 16), but a closer look at the results reveals significant improvement.

In 2018, the women were 2-16 (Win Percentage of .111) in non-shootout games with an average point differential of -7/game.  Translation: most of the games were noncompetitive and essentially over in the first few minutes.  In 2019, they were 6-8 (.429) and the average point differential was 1/game.  Games were typically much closer and the U.S. had a shoot out loss to 6th place Argentina and they battled 3rd place and perennial power Brazil to a golden goal in one match. In consolation play they actually blew out some teams. 

To be clear, playing teams closer is still not winning, but make no mistake, it’s progress.

A Question of Need (Management Expectations)

Perhaps, however, management expectations were higher for U.S. performance.  For sure, it would have been nice to get out the consolation bracket and place higher, but it’s debatable as to whether that was a reasonable expectation for such a new program with some key players getting their first experience at a high level tournament. 

Additionally, while results in competition are important, there surely were other goals and objectives for the program.  I don’t know what was expected, but one can only assume those expectations weren’t being met.  Otherwise, if the team is making progress why make a change?

A Question of Timing (Why Now?)

The timing of the move also suggests that more was at play than just team results.  Otherwise such a change would logically have occurred right after the tournament in October rather than 5 months later.  Coaches everywhere know the drill.   If your team performs poorly and the season/tournament has ended they know that the “phone call” could well be coming.  The Monday after week 17 in the NFL is known as Black Monday for a reason.  Ask French Men’s Coach, Didier Dinart, what happens when you have one bad game (vs Portugal) at the European Championships.  You’re often shown the door.  That’s just how it works.  Results matter, but, Coach De Oliveira was not shown the door until several months later suggesting that the move was not directly related to competition performance.

A Question of Process

Personnel changes can be accomplished in a number of different ways, but a more open and transparent process might have been warranted.  In 2018, the U.S, advertised for the “court” Men’s Head Coach position and received dozens of applications and this process resulted in the eventual hiring of Robert Hedin.  A beach head coaching job is certainly less sought after, but a more open process would probably stifle any concerns that personnel changes were being quietly orchestrated behind the scenes.

Practicality for Practice

A majority of the athletes likely to make the U.S. roster currently live in Southern California. Having a coach co-located with those athletes facilitates instruction during practice. There, of course, can be training camps in other parts of the country, but such traveling can be expensive.

A Tough Coaching Change

Making a coaching change is rarely easy and with the U.S. beach handball community being so small it’s even tougher.  Everybody knows everybody really well and everyone knows that Coach De Oliveira has been there from the start, first as Assistant Coach for the Men’s Program and then as the first coach of the Women’s Program.  This past summer I saw firsthand the effort involved in setting up the Southern California Beach Handball Tournament.  It takes a village to stage such an event, but De Oliveira is a really big part of that village.  I can only assume that he’s also been a big part of everything else that’s taken place the last several years.  With all of that work done as an unpaid volunteer coach/organizer.

To make the determination that all that work plus steady progress in International competition just wasn’t good enough couldn’t have been easy.  To say thanks, but sorry your assistant coaches are better equipped to take the team to the next level, that’s got to be a very tough call.

The Road Ahead (Near and Far Term)

In the near term it’s all about the Beach World Championships, currently scheduled for 30 June – July 5 in Pescara, Italy.  (One can at least hope that the Coronavirus Pandemic will have subsided by then).  With likely a very similar, but now more experienced roster, I would have expected a better performance regardless as to who was coach.  In my opinion a great result would be top 8, 9th-12th would be OK, while 13th-16th would be a disappointment.  From a few social media postings it appears the athletes are motivated and they have recently met in Atlanta and San Antonio for training.  Even were planning to train in Southern California this weekend, but it has since been cancelled due to Coronavirus concerns.  I wouldn’t bet against dedication like that.  This side will rally around who’s ever coaching and come together for the best performance possible.

Beyond the World Championships this summer, however, some serious thought is needed as to what the long term strategy should be for Beach Handball.  The big inflection point will be the IOC’s decision on whether to include Beach Handball at the 2024 Olympics.  I think the odds are against it due to athlete quotas, but if does happen, we could have a seismic change in terms of the resources and focus that will be placed on Beach Handball.  One can even envision a residency program (perhaps at Chula Vista, CA) and an influx of talent that would make the U.S. a strong medal contender.

But, even if that doesn’t happen a strategy’s still needed.  In particular, there will be a need to consider steps to develop beach clubs, grow the elite talent pool and whether one geographic area should be selected for focused development.

(Note: I reached out to USA Team Handball CEO, Barry Siff, for more information regarding the coaching change, but he declined to comment.)

Team Handball News Collegiate Top 5 Poll (Mar 2020)

Air Force Moves Up to #2 in the Latest Poll

College Season Heating Up…but the Championship has been Postponed

Some recent matches have upended the Collegiate Top 5, but on the top of everyone’s minds is the recent decision by USA Team Handball to postpone the Collegiate National Championships. Originally scheduled for 3-5 April at Ohio State University the tournament has now been postponed due to concerns with the Coronavirus situation and Ohio State’s recent decision to suspend all “In-Person” classes until March 30th.

This is a shame because the championship was shaping up to be one of the most interesting and potentially wide open contests in years. Yes, Army- West Point, is still the odds on favorite, but several sides have stepped up their game and seemed poised to provide them a real challenge. Here are the result of the latest poll.

Army: Per usual, Army has had an outstanding season and is unbeaten in college play. They are also on track for a 2nd place finish in the Northeast Team Handball League behind NYC.

Air Force: Air Force was beaten soundly by Army in November 40-28, but in January at the Cal Cup, the margin was just 31-29. More recently, they went 5-0-0 at their own tournament and had an impressive 26-18 victory over previously unbeaten North Carolina. This victory (no surprise) vaulted them to #2 in the standings.

North Carolina: North Carolina has a 14-0-2 overall record and their top accomplishment this year was winning the Carolina Blue Cup. They’ve been a consistent performer, but the loss to Air Force dropped them to #3

Ohio State: Ohio State has a 10-1-1 overall record and in February they knocked off previously unbeaten Pittsburgh 31-19. This record and the key victory over Pitt has vaulted them to 4th place, but all their wins have come at home. It remains to be seen how well they can do against sides that play against tougher competition.

Army (2nd Team): Army’s 2nd team took 2nd place at the Carolina Blue Cup and this performance earned them a 5th place ranking. In the semifinals they shocked perennial power NYAC and in the finals they only lost, 31-29 to North Carolina. The only question mark? The roster for the side that played in Chapel Hill had some players who’ve also seen 1st team action this season. So, it was perhaps a better 2nd team side then the team that has played in other competitions.

Looking Ahead

Lots of questions marks remain regarding the evolving Coronavirus situation and it’s impact on sporting events. The USA Team Handball announcement even suggested that attendees hold off on making travel plans for the that the Club National Championships scheduled for 8-10 May in Detroit. Even if the Coronavirus concerns get resolve with students finishing up the semester in May and seniors graduating it could be very challenging to reschedule the college championship. Yes, it would certainly be a huge disappointment, but there’s a very real possibility that there won’t be any more college handball this season.

2019-20 College Records: Link

2019-20 Game Results: Link

Spain’s Copa Del Rey with an American Angle

Logrono’s Jr Scott and Leon’s Drew Donlin

This weekend 8 Spanish Club teams will meet in Madrid for the finals of the Copa Del Rey Cup. Of special interest to American handball fans will be the 2nd quarterfinal between Ademar Leon and Logrono La Rioja which will have one current U.S. National Team player (Drew Donlin) playing against a possible future U.S. National Team Player (Jr. Scott).

Leon and Logrono will play tomorrow (Friday) at 1615 CET / 1015 US ET. And, the match can probably be seen here in the U.S., but it might take a little planning/effort. (How to watch in the U.S.: Link)

Andemar Leon vs Logrono: Video Link

The winner of the match will face the winner of Barcelona/Granollers on Saturday in the Semifinals.

Copa Del Rey Tournament Bracket

Podcast (Episode 65): Air Force Invitational Interviews

During this past weekend’s Air Force Invitational I conducted several interviews and they are all featured on the latest podcast for download.

Interview 1) William Kennedy of Texas A&M and Moshe Mukori of Concordia College talk about playing for Dallas THC at this tournament and their efforts with their respective college programs.
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Interview 2) North Carolina’s Alex Laws discusses the Air Force – North Carolina match, the current state of collegiate handball and the challenges of recruiting athletes for the collegiate game. I also ask him a variation of the Jay Cutler challenge: Could a select group of UNC football and basketball players beat the Carolina Handball team?

Interview 3) Tournament MVP, Air Force Nate Luther after the Championship game, Air Force’s defense strategy and his evolution as a player over four years. And, also whether a group of AF football and basketball players could beat the AF Handball team

Interview 4) Air Force coach, Mike Cavanaugh, reflects on the tournament, the waning days of stickum, some of the challenges with roster integrity and the last time Air Force beat West Point. (Note: I was a bit confused regarding Air Force’s planned trip to the Netherlands over Spring Break; Their spring break is a different week from Ohio State, so it’s a separate trip.)

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Air Force Knocks Off #2 North Carolina on Way to AF Invitational Title

Air Force on offense vs North Carolina this past weekend at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs.

Air Force and North Carolina met this past Saturday in a key collegiate team handball showdown that will certainly have implications on the Top 5 Collegiate Poll and seeding for the College National Championships.

Coming into the North Carolina was undefeated with an 11-0-0 overall record and a 5-0-0 record in collegiate competition. Winners of the Carolina Blue Cup and a #2 ranking. Meanwhile Air Force had been in and out of the Top 5 and a far less gaudy 2-0-11 record, arguably against tougher competition.

Earlier in the day North Carolina lost to Dallas THC, 29-23, meaning that the pool play match between the two teams would also likely see who would make the championship match.

The match started out competitively with Air Force taking a two goal lead in the first ten minutes. Gradually, though, Air Force started to pull away from Carolina. To stem the tide, North Carolina used a somewhat unique 7 vs 6 attack with GK, Jack Moore leaving the goal and essentially playing center back. This strategy had mixed results offensively and Air Force failed to fully capitalize on several empty net opportunities. Regardless Air Force was able to extend their lead to 12-6, before North Carolina went on a mini 3-1 to close out the half and limit Air Force to 13 – 9 halftime lead.

The second half featured more of the same with Air Force gradually extending their lead and North Carolina never really threatening to get back into the contest. Air Force’s peak lead was 25-15 and the final score was 26-18.

Air Force used a variety of defenses including a pressure man to man defense which prevented North Carolina from ever getting into a comfortable flow. This defense along with an outstanding performance by GK Austin Faulkner limited North Carolina to just 9 goals each half.

Speaking with North Carolina leading scorer, Aaron Hamm, after the match he highlighted that it was a well deserved win by Air Force, but that they missed having their #1 GK Jared Floyd, who couldn’t attend due to a family emergency.

Air Force team captain, Austin Faulkner was pleased with the Air Force performance noting that North Carolina had beaten Air Force last year at College Nationals and the win was a big confidence booster for the club.

Air Force has no more stateside competition prior to College Nationals, but most of the team is headed to the Netherlands over spring break for a training camp.

Air Force Scoring
Nathan Luther 6
Kyle Gruzka 5
Richard Vaughn 5
Quinton Riddle 3
Anthony Sanders 3
Mark Simpson 2
Tevin Miller 1
Brian Brown 1

North Carolina Scoring
Aaron Hamm 8
Philip Schwarte 4
Alex Laws 3
Jack Moore 2
Joe Reinhardt 1

Tournament Results

Pool Play
Air Force 33 – 18 Air Force (2nd Team)
Dallas THC 28 – 20 Salt Lake City
North Carolina 30 – 24 Air Force (2nd Team)
Air Force 34 – 21 Salt Lake City
Dallas THC 29 – 23 North Carolina (Video Excerpt: Link)
Salt Lake City 27 – 26 Air Force (2nd Team)
Air Force 26 – North Carolina 18 (Video Excerpt: Link)
Dallas THC 36 – 22 Air Force (2nd Team)
Air Force – Dallas THC (Not Played)
North Carolina – Salt Lake City (Not Played)

Pool Play Standings

Note: The last 2 pool play matches were not played since they would have been meaningless matches between the same teams that would later meet in the Championship and 3rd place games. Instead a friendly was played between the Air Force 2nd Team and North Carolina’s reserves.

3rd Place
North Carolina 25 – 20 Salt Lake City

1st Place
Air Force 28 – 27 Dallas THC

This was an outstanding back and forth competitive match which saw tournament MVP, Nathan Luther score the decider in the closing seconds. Be sure to check out the video of last 8 minutes of the match: Video 1 Video 2

Awards
Top Scorer: Paul Assfalg: Dallas THC
Most Valuable Goalkeeper: Austin Faulkner
Most Valuable Player: Nathan Luther

Video of Awards Ceremony: Link

Euro 2020 Sports Betting Review and a Few Thoughts on Handball Betting

Amateur vs Pro Bettor…

A Handball Betting Experiment

During the 2020 Men’s European Handball Championships this past January I conducted a little betting experiment with “Samo”, a professional handball bettor from Slovenia. We each started the tournament with 1000 Euros and made a variety of wagers almost every day. My imaginary bank roll of 1,000 Euros took a 115 Euro hit, leaving me with just 885 Euros. Meanwhile, Samo fared considerably better, netting a profit of 860 Euros. That’s a solid return on investment.

Overall, most of our wagers were around 100 Euros. My W-L-D record was 7-8-1 (46.7%) and Samo’s was 12-4-1 (75%). Because we each had several bets that weren’t 50-50 point spreads these percentage don’t tell the whole story, but they tell a story. 50% is about one would get by throwing darts. 75% is doing pretty damn well. Historically, professional bettors are very happy with 55-60 %.

Side Note on My Personal Sports Betting History

Back in the day I was a much more active sports bettor. Frequent trips to Vegas and parents living there accommodated this hobby. For the most part I bet American Football and basketball and bet on the teams I liked when I thought they had a good line. I learned the hard way to never bet on my teams when I thought they would lose. Why? Well, it sucks to root for your team to lose. (I guess if I was more serious about my “hobby” I wouldn’t care.) Anyway, after awhile I decided to meticulously track my wins and losses. And, what did I find out? Well, I found I was right almost exactly half the time. Yes, there was a diminishing sine wave that would start at 60% to 40% and then over time dampen from 55% to 45% and so on.

So, I couldn’t stay above the magical 52.38% (The break even % with the Vegas house cut), but proved to myself that if the wager size didn’t get out of hand, it was pretty decent entertainment that wouldn’t break my bank. And, if you’ve ever been to Vegas during the NCAA basketball tourney with 16 games on Thursday and Friday for 12 hours of non-stop action and hundreds of people cheering, it can be phenomenal entertainment. (Trust me, if that experience is not your bucket list it should be.)

Anyway, the point of this personal history is to make it clear. Done right, there is nothing morally bankrupt about sports betting.

Wrong Handball Betting

Of course, handball betting can also be done wrong… very wrong. And, there can be no more troubling example than the 2012 Montpellier scandal. As new people in the U.S. are always discovering handball they may not be aware that one of the greatest handball players of all time, Nikola Karabatic and his brother Luka were found guilty of being a part of a match fixing scheme. I’m always a bit amazed at how handball can somehow sweep history like this under the rug, but swept it has been for the most part. Even more amazed that the penalties were so minor. Seriously, Shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose would both be in the Hall of Fame if baseball adopted handball’s penalty structures.

Montpellier Scandal: Link 1 Link 2

Evolving Views on Sports Betting and a Way to Help Popularize Handball

For some perspective on the evolving situation check out my commentary from 2008 on sports betting. Yes, 12 years later the times are a changing big time. U.S. leagues are now talking to sports books. They are even signing data partnerships to ensure the integrity of the game. The Las Vegas Knights play in the NHL and the Las Vegas Raiders are joining the NFL. The NBA even wants a cut on sports bets made on NBA games! These moves were almost unthinkable 12 years ago.

Even more dramatic: Sports betting is legal now in 13 states. Christ, there are sports books in Iowa now for crying out loud. And, more and more states are allowing mobile betting from the comfort of your own home.

Further, there are now more interesting ways to bet sports now. The proposition bets on individual players used to be a Super Bowl only opportunity. Now it’s every game… And, even for handball. If you think a certain player is going to struggle to get his goals because the defense a team plays you can bet that. There are a ridiculous number of possibilities.

And, the possibility that handball betting could help popularize the sport in the U.S. shouldn’t be loss on anyone trying to grow the game in this country. During the Xavier O’Callaghan interview with Barstool Sports the subject of gambling on handball came up briefly. And, why wouldn’t they ask that question. The popular sports website is selling a 36% stake in the company ($163M) to sports betting company, Penn National Gaming, with an option to take that stake to 50%. Yes Barstool Sports is well on its way to becoming a gambling company with a website and podcasts.

In the not too distant future could we see the Barstool guys debating the line on Paris SG – Kiel? Or whether Mikkel Hansen will score more than 6.5 goals? Could be. And, make no mistake that could help popularize the game, big time.

My Favorite Handball Bad Beat

ESPN does Sports Center segment where they review the bad beats of the week. The bets you thought you had won only to lose in the end.

Well, watch the closing minutes of the Spain – Croatia match where I had Spain at -2.5 Link (at around 2:00:00 on the efhTV clock)

Two easy chances for Spain to win by 3 and one of those chances foiled by sportsmanship! Well, you know what they say… Losing a close bet is as almost as much entertaining as winning it.

Is the USA Team Handball CEO taking the Side of Jay Cutler and Pardon My Take? With a Few Caveats, It Sure Sounds that Way

USA Team Handball CEO, Barry Siff, on Play Sqorr TV: Is he really taking Jay Cutler’s side in the ongoing controversy? It sure sound like it and why that’s a bit concerning.

The recent remarks by Jay Cutler and others regarding handball being a sport that American athletes from other sports could easily learn and quickly dominate have stirred up a lot of controversy.  On one side is virtually the entire handball world, collectively scoffing at American arrogance and ignorance of the sport they love.  On the other side are Americans who’ve been watching American athletes dominate and perform so well in so many sports.  Let’s take a look at these two viewpoints with some quotes from the past few weeks.

Americans Just Dominate Viewpoint

Here’s a summary of quotes from the “Americans Just Dominate” side:

Jay Cutler, Former NFL QB
(28 January on Pardon My Take: Link)

“I do want to get a team together for the Olympics… I think it’s handball, but it’s basically like a little ball that you throw around and throw into a goal, so it’s like indoor soccer with a ball that you throw.  There’s a U.S. team, but I want to go and do that.  Just throwing missiles….  I guarantee it that we can put a team together to win gold.”

Domonique Foxworth, Former NFL CB
(30 January on ESPN’s Highly Questionable: Link)

“I’m sorry if this is disrespectable to handballers everywhere, but I’ve watched that game before… It’s not like this is soccer and it’s just not a big deal here.  I’m sure handball is a big deal somewhere…. You know who plays handball.  The people who couldn’t make it in soccer, couldn’t make it in football, couldn’t make it in basketball… So, I know it’s completely disrespectful to all handballers out there, but I don’t care… Me, Jay Cutler and Lebron will go win a handball championship”

Dan “Big Cat” Katz, Pardon My Take Host 
(7 February on Pardon My Take: Link)

“I mean it’s 100% true.  No offense to Handballists.  I’m sure you’re very nice people, but you play a sport that if we decided to stop playing all the other sports that that there would be a lot of guys better than what you’re doing.”

“Handball is not easy… It would take 3 months for U.S. pros to train and get acclimated.”

Handball World Viewpoint

And, here are some quotes from the “Handball world” side:

Ty Reed, USA Men’s National Team, Right Wing
(1 Feb on PlaySqorr TV: Link

“They’re very misinformed about the sport and kind of what the possibilities for American athletes are.”

“It’s a great foundation to have basketball, football, baseball; to have those skills, but, handball is a very unique game.  The athleticism isn’t really the problem.  It’s knowing the tactics of the game and making a positive result out of that.”

“You take Jay Cutler, Lebron, Patrick Mahomes, 3 other scrubs that don’t know how to play they’re going to lose by 30 to Argentina.  It’s not even going to be close.”

“They’ve been playing handball since they’re six years old and they know more about the sport than anybody picking the game up in their mid 20’s will ever know, including myself.  It sucks for me.  I’ve been over here 2 years now and I’m a beginner compared to these kids because I just don’t have the knowledge and experience that they do.  Athletically, Americans in general are very much superior to the general European players that are playing handball. The athleticism is not what’s in question.  The tactics and the execution of the game and their knowledge of the game couldn’t be further apart.”

Robert Hedin, USA Men’s National Team Head Coach
(12 February on the Team Handball News Podcast: Link)

“Funny to hear them talking about handball being so easy…  It would be difficult for them to score many goals against a good team.  No chance…”

“For them to score 5 goals in one half… It would be impossible.  Maybe if they had 2 or 3 years of training they could score 5 goals… but 3 or 4 months, no chance.”

“Because it’s not so easy, if you have never played handball…They are looking at it and they see that they are big athletes and good trained guys, but it’s not enough.  Talk about curling.  It’s another sport and it looks easy, but it’s also, really, really difficult.  Respect to every sports.  It’s not just to train for 3 or 4 months and think you can win.  It’s no chance.”

Xavier O’Callaghan, Former Player, Spain and FC Barcelona
(13 February on the Pardon My Take Podcast: Link)

In response to a question about whether Jay Cutler’s take is insane or has a little truth to it.

“He is insane… He cannot win an Olympic medal in 2-3 months… You have the potential to be amazing athletes to play in a high level, but it takes time to be professional (a very good handball player).  So, what I mean.  In the short term it is impossible.  Insane.  In the long term… It takes years. For sure…”

But, in another world, if Cutler was born in Barcelona could he be a professional handball player?

“Of course, and probably one of the best… But, he needs to understand the game. He needs to train every day.  So, it’s a matter of technique.  It’s not just the physical condition.  It’s the technique and the tactics.  You need to read the game.  To know when you have to move.  When to pass the ball.  When you have to shoot.  Those kind of things; you have to learn them.  It’s not a matter of 1, 2, 3 months.”

USA Team Handball CEO, Barry Siff, on the Controversy

Just when I thought the controversy was dying down a bit, USA Team Handball CEO, Barry Siff went on PlaySqorr TV and, to me, it sounded quite a bit like he is taking the side of Jay Cutler, Domonique Foxworth and Pardon My Take. (Minus, the overt arrogance, of course.) Review the quotes below and form your own opinion.

Barry Siff, USA Team Handball CEO
(21 February on PlaySqorr TV: Link

“When we do our tryouts later this year I think we’re going to shock some people in the type of athletes that we’re going bring onto handball and onto our team.”

“I know this is sacrilegious and I’m insulting a lot of people, but I don’t think it takes these 2, 3, 4, 5 years of learning all the nuances and techniques, etc…”

“I don’t think long term that well… I’m only going to be here through Paris, you know.  This is like my last stint of full time stuff.  And, you know, we got to get to Paris.  Long term, we’ve got to be really competitive in L.A., but, my personal goal is to have a team or two in Paris for sure.  And, the way to do that is through getting some of these athletes that we’re talking about.  These high, high caliber athletes starting to play right now.”

Not convinced?  Take a listen to this podcast back from last July

Barry Siff, USA Team Handball CEO
(23 July 2019) Babbitville Radio Podcast:  Link (at 34:45)

“The concept that I had in 2016 was to have a kind of Netflix, 30 for 30, whatever it is documentary building the next great America sport.  What we were going to do was track going out and having tryouts in New York, in LA, San Francisco and Chicago.  Having tryouts; bringing these athletes…”

“Our vision was let’s document building this team from scratch.  We were going to go out and get football players, basketball players, water polo players.  We were going to quietly build this team and then we were going to challenge USA Team Handball to a match.  Winner take all.  We win:  We take over the federation.  You win: We walk.”

“That was the idea.  I thought it was a brilliant…  We ran into political complications, you know, some other matters and we walked away from it.  But, I still feel that way.  I still feel like we can go out and we can make this media project that will bring interest to the sport.  We’ve got to get eyeballs. We’ve got to get people to see the sport.”

To me, as described, this proposed “challenge match” sounds remarkably similar to the Pardon My Take challenge. Again, form your own opinion.

Side Note:  The documentary concept also seems to be very similar to the Reality TV show concept that was discussed with USA Team Handball at around the same time in 2016.

Transfer Athletes to Handball?:  It can be done… with caveats

It’s pretty hard for me to be an objective neutral in this debate.  As someone who started playing handball at age 19 and only obtained a modest level of performance I’ve experienced firsthand how hard it is.  And, I’ve also seen how hard it is for athletes way more physically gifted than me.  Finally, I have spent an inordinate amount of time and energy assessing this very topic from virtually every possible angle.  Link 1  Link 2  Link 3 Link 4 Link 5 Link 6 Link 7

In short, the right question is not, “Can it be done?”  Actually, if you listen to the full interviews everyone on both sides thinks it can be done.  They just disagree on how long such a transition would take.  On one extreme is the viewpoint that it can done with a couple of months of training.  On the other extreme is that is takes 10 years and pretty much has to be done starting at age 15 or so.  And, the answer is further muddled by varying discussion as to what level of performance would be achieved.  (e.g. winning a gold medal to just needing to be able to beat Argentina and Brazil in a few years.

No, the right question is “Should it be done?”  And, that question can only be properly considered after asking and answering a lot of questions related to the specifics of the proposed talent transfer focused effort being planned.  Such questions like:

  • How long will it take?
  • How much will it cost?
  • What raw talent level of athlete is being targeted?
  • What are the target ages for those athletes?
  • What are the overall goals of such a short term focused effort? (How many athletes?  What level are those athletes expected to achieve?)
  • What is the likelihood that such goals will be achieved as a result of this effort?
  • What are the opportunity costs in terms of lost grass roots development?

Perhaps, all of these questions (and more) are indeed being asked and answered.  All, I know is that if the plan is to take athletes from scratch to World Class in 3 years (i.e.; in time to meaningfully contribute to 2024 Olympic Qualification at the 2023 PANAM Games) it’s not going to being easy or cheap.  My back of the envelope analysis is that probably the only way it could make sense would be for a reality TV show or a privately financed Pro League to pay for almost all or most of the costs.

Big Picture

If you’re like me, you are genuinely optimistic about USA Team Handball’s future thanks to recent developments like the Verizon Sponsorship, hiring of IPG 360 for additional promotion and the placement of U.S. players with top club teams in Europe.  CEO Barry Siff has also sure brought some positive “can do” attitude to USA Team Handball.  

But… positive “can do” attitude can only take you so far.  Unless sponsorship will soon exceed my wildest dreams USA Team Handball is still very resource constrained.  It just doesn’t seem practical at this point in time to start a major talent transfer effort.  Not when there are so many other worthy needs competing for resources.

Then again, I could be wrong.  I haven’t finished my assessment yet.  For sure, I’ll be tackling these sorts of questions in more detail as I work on the “what we want” section of this series: Link

Charting a Way Forward for USA Team Handball (2019 Reboot): Introduction

ESPN Missed Out on the English Premier League: Will they Miss the Boat for Handball Too?

The Team Handball Sub-Channel on ESPN+ (What I Would Like to See, Anyway)

The Bill Simmons Podcast recently had an interesting discussion on how streaming is changing the way we watch sports. Joining Simmons was tech analyst, Ben Thompson, and they covered several topics, but eventually the discussion turned to ESPN and their relatively new Over the Top (OTT) streaming service, ESPN+. Around 16:30 into the episode, Thompson talked about which sports content would be on the traditional ESPN network channels and what sports would find their way to ESPN+

“They’re never going to take the big stuff away from ESPN.  ESPN still makes a ton of money.  And, also it makes a lot of sense with it being live, advertising… Sports is going to be the very last thing to go to a subscription model.

But, all the other sports, that like a few thousand people care about…   there’s literally no time for that on ESPN… There’s 24 hours in a day.  Right?  And, so all that sort of stuff is a huge opportunity.

Actually, I think one of the biggest missed opportunities that people don’t think about for ESPN is… ESPN was pretty early to soccer and they should have locked up the Premier League a decade ago.  Like, if they owned the Premier League and had it on ESPN+.  Imagine how huge that would be right now? That was a big missed opportunity.

There then was a brief discussion on how ESPN had investigated purchasing the Premier League, but had assessed that they couldn’t because there just wasn’t enough room for it.  That it would interfere with American football which attracts the greatest number of viewers.

Thompson then continues:

“Whereas, now that they have ESPN+; their bandwidth is unlimited.  Right?  They can show whatever they want to on there.  So, it’s like a total shift in mindset as to what’s valuable and why it is valuable.  It goes from what reaches the maximum number of people… to actually what’s really valuable is stuff that some number of people care intensely about.  Because the more intensely they care about it the more they are willing to pay for it.”

It doesn’t take much imagination to review this conversation in the context of team handball. As in, how big might it be for ESPN if they were tp purchase the EHF Champions and other handball content and put it on ESPN+? Or, will it end up being another missed opportunity. Yes, right now it might not seem like a huge opportunity, but in 10 years hindsight might well tell a different story.

As one of nearly 8M ESPN+ subscribers, all I know is that every time I access the app it is painfully clear to me that this is exactly where team handball belongs. That it would provide the very best exposure and chance to grow the sport.

Don’t get me wrong:

  • I love ehfTV (especially, when it’s not geoblocked), but it stands little chance of exposing the sport to new fans in the U.S.
  • I love traditional TV channels like ESPN, the NBC Olympic Channel, and even beIN Sports, but it’s tough to get time on those channels. (Christ, it’s often tough for handball to get aired on TV in Europe.)
  • And, maybe there are other streaming possibilities like NBC Gold and DAZN USA, but those OTT platforms are starting to fall far behind ESPN in terms of subscriber base.

Some other reasons why ESPN just makes sense:

  • They have had multiple on air personalities like Scott Van Pelt profess their love for the sport.
  • They recently talked about handball twice on their daily show, Highly Questionable.
  • They have included handball several times on its popular plays of the day segment. Like these from from 2017 and 2018, as well a couple more from the 2019 PANAM Games and 2020 European Championship. (I wonder how often it would be on if they owned the product)
  • They have an immense social media presence. As an example when they’ve put handball plays of the day on their Instagram account they gotten up to 2M views.

The EHF Champions League TV rights are opening up this summer. The French and German League rights are already available. ESPN+ is still looking to add content. It just makes so much sense. Who knows, maybe it will even happen.

Side Notes:

  • Did the proposed ESPN+ channel graphic look familiar to you? It might because it’s very similar to one I made after the Olympics four years ago when I wrote a commentary proposing a similar OTT handball channel. My commentary was somewhat prescient, but, for sure, I didn’t consider ESPN getting into the act.
  • The podcast host, Bill Simmons, is also a big handball fan.  He wrote this article during the 2012 Olympics and talked about handball on his TV show during the 2016 Olympics.  Makes me wonder what’s in store for 2020?

North Carolina Takes Blue Cup Tourney Title

North Carolina: Carolina Blue Cup Champions

North Carolina hosted 11 teams this past weekend at their annual Carolina Blue Cup Tournament and they ended up taking the title. Here’s a summary of the results with a focus on the 4 collegiate clubs (North Carolina, Army, Virginia and James Madison) that participated.

Pool Play

The 11 clubs were split up into 3 pools of 3 teams and 1 pool of 2 teams. Each pool played a full round robin and here are the results.

North Carolina 29 – James Madison 18
James Madison was no match for the #2 Tar Heels. North Carolina was led in scoring by Leandro Pappalettera with 7 goals while James Madison’s Nick Federovitch and Kevin Plunket had 5 goals a piece.

Quarterfinals and (9th-11th) Pool Play

Both Army and North Carolina won their quarterfinal matches. North Carolina beat the UVA Alumni team 31-23. Jordan Mason led Carolina scoring with 7 goals and Nick Vorobiov added 6. Army beat Swim & Sports Club 30-21. Nathan Chilian led Army with 7 goals while Ryan Thistlewood added 5.

Virginia 31 – James Madison 24
In 9th-11th place consolation play Virginia got revenge for a loss to JMU two weeks ago in Northeast Team Handball League (NTHL). JMU actually led 12-11 at the half, meaning that Virginia totally dominated the 2nd half for the eventual 31-24 victory. Virginia was led in scoring by Lincoln Ambrose and Ben Kilpatrick with 10 goals each. James Madison’s Nick Federovitch, Tom Fonti and Kevin Plunkett scored 4 each. Both teams also knocked off Philly in consolation play.

Semifinals and Placement Games

In one of the biggest upsets in U.S. club history, Army shocked perennial U.S Open Championships contender NYAC for a 35-34 victory. For some context on the upset: NYAC’s roster featured at least 9 former national team players and 2 Olympians while Army’s roster had no players with more than 3 years club experience. Army was led in scoring by Ryan Thistlewood with 10 goals. Nathan Chilian and William Considine added 9 and 7 goals respectively. In the other semifinal North Carolina easily beat Saskatchewan 34-24. Leandro Pappalettera led Carolina with 8 goals and Aaron Hamm added 7.

North Carolina 31 – Army (2nd Team) 29 (Gold Medal Match)

It was all collegiate affair for the tourney title and North Carolina came out on top 31-29. North Carolina was led in scoring by Leandro Pappalettera with 11 goals. Alex Laws scored 6 and Aaron Hamm added 5. Army was led in scoring by William Considine with 9 goals with Nathan Chilian adding 6.

Notes
– I’ve been told by several tourney attendees that the Army team participating, West Point Gold (Army’s 2nd Team) was supplemented with some players that have played for West Point Black (Army’s 1st Team). And, that it was an all underclassmen team (no seniors). So perhaps this “combined team” might be considered as better than Army’s 2nd Team, but not quite as good as Army’s 1st Team.
– North Carolina’s Leandro Pappalettera is an exchange Grad student from Argentina, and as you might have guessed from his goals scored he’s an experienced player. However, unfortunately, for North Carolina they will be losing that extra scoring punch soon, since he is headed back to Argentina and will not be attending College Nationals.

Ohio St Makes a Statement with 31-19 Victory over Pitt

Ohio St hosted a tournament yesterday in Columbus with Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and the Columbus Armada playing a round robin.

Tournament Standings

College Match Results

Pittsburgh 24 – Cincinnati 16 Video
Cincinnati played Pittsburgh close in the first half, trailing only 10-9 at the break. The 2nd half, however, was all Pittsburgh as they went on a 6-1 scoring run to start the half and never looked back.
– Leading Scorers: Pitt (Cedric Humphrey 7, Nick Kocher, 5; Cincinnati (Patric Nordbeck 5; David Rea 4)

Ohio St 31 – Pittsburgh 19 Video
The match started out evenly and was tied 3-3 in the early going, but Ohio St applied more pressure on defense and a fast break spree saw them jump out to an 11-4 lead. A lead they never relinquished and gradually extended to the 31-19 final score.

For Ohio St the game was a bit of a statement as they have had a bit of a chip on their shoulder since previously unbeaten and #3 Pittsburgh had knocked them out of the top 5 Poll in November. It was certainly a solid win for Ohio St, but Pittsburgh was missing 3 starters including Center Back, Pau Sanchez.
– Leading Scorers: Ohio St (Sean Starret 6, Matt Bolger 5, Robby Fehrenbach 5 Gabe Redmond 5) Pitt (Ben O’Connell 4, Dylan Leonard 4)

Ohio St 35 – Cincinnati 15 Video
As the score suggests Ohio St dominated this match from start to finish.
– Leader Scorers: Ohio St (Daniel Mills 8, Matt Bolger 6) Cincinnati (David Rea 4)

Matches vs Columbus Armada

Ohio St 32 – Columbus Armada 29 Video not available
Cincinnati 23 – Columbus Armada 20 Video 1 Video 2
Pittsburgh 22 – Columbus Armada 19 Video 1 Video 2

Podcast (Episode 64): USA Men’s Coach, Robert Hedin on his Challenge to Jay Cutler and Recent National Team Matches

USA Men’s National Team Coach, Robert Hedin

USA Men’s National Team Coach, Robert Hedin is the podcast guest and we discuss:

  • His challenge to former NFL QB, Jay Cutler and the Pardon My Take roster to score 10 goals against the U.S. Men’s National Team.
  • His reaction to athletes from other sports thinking handball is easy
  • The resulting publicity for this controversy
  • USA National Team camps and matches Tri-Nations Tournament in Ireland, Sauerland Cup and Ystad (Swedish club)
  • Upcoming training/competitions (Volendam, NL (April) and the North American & Caribbean Championships (June).

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EHF Cup: Watch Team USA’s Drew Donlin and Ademar Leon: 6 Matches on ehfTV

Team USA’s Drew Donlin playing for Ademar Leon

Group Play for the EHF Cup starts this weekend with 4 teams broken up into 4 groups. Normally, I don’t pay much attention to the EHF Cup as there are only so many hours in a day and it is the second fiddle to the more prestigious EHF Champions League. Unless you have a “dog in the fight” watching the EHF Cup is a bit like watching the NIT instead of the NCAA Tournament.

However, this season, I, and other USA Team Handball fans, indeed, have a dog in the fight with Drew Donlin, playing for Ademar Leon, 1 of the 16 clubs fighting for the title. Leon is in Group C and will be battling German club, Madgeburg, French club, Nantes, and Slovenia club, Velenje for a spot in the quarterfinals. 1st place guarantees advancement and placing 2nd also may advance depending on the ranking of the 2nd place teams in the the 4 groups.

This should be a very interesting competition and on paper I would assess that Nantes (2nd in the French League and Magdeburg (5th in the German Bundesliga) are the two favorites with Leon and Velenje the outsiders. But, the competition is a double round robin and won’t be played on paper.

Even better news is that every match will be available on ehfTV and unlike the EHF Champions League there is no pesky geoblock in the way of enjoying the matches. (There are ways around geoblocks, but it’s nice not to have deal with that. How to watch the EHF CL: Link)

Here’s Leon’s schedule in Group C (All times CET / US ET (+6)

Sunday, 9 Feb 1700 @ Nantes Livestream
Wednesday 12 Feb 2000 vs Magdeburg Livestream
Saturday, 22 Feb, 1930 vs Velenje Livestream
Saturday, 29 Feb, 1700 @ Velenje Livestream
Saturday, 21 Mar, 2000 vs Nantes Livestream
Sunday, 29 Mar, 1700 @ Magdeburg Livestream

(Bookmark this page for future reference: I will update this page with On Demand streams when they become available)

It’s not clear how much game time, Donlin will be seeing in these matches. Of late he’s been seeing a few minutes of action as a defender in each half. However, as we discussed in this podcast, coach Cadenas has told him that his size might be needed against bigger teams like Nantes and Madgeburg.

Pardon My Take Spouts More Nonsense and USA Men’s Coach Calls for a Challenge Match

A little more handball nonsense from America’s #1 Sports Podcast

Early this morning, the Pardon My Take podcast addressed the ongoing Jay Cutler/Handball controversy.

Listen here: Link (Click “Play” below the logo and go to 48:50 for the “handball discussion.”)

Some Hot Takes From the Podcast

  • They are a bit surprised with the uproar among “handballists”
  • “The “Olympics” for handball is not actually the Olympics. It’s responding to everybody that says that U.S. could dominate in the Olympics if we put our other athletes in handball.”
  • “I mean it’s 100% true. No offense to Handballists. I’m sure you’re very nice people but you play a sport that if we decided to stop playing all the other sports that there would be a lot of guys better than what you’re doing. I’m sorry. I apologize for absolutely nothing. We’re right.”
  • The U.S. would also dominate rugby if our American football players grew up playing the sport
  • Soccer is different. We couldn’t do that in soccer since it’s a world class sport.
  • Handball is not “world class” like soccer. It’s recess
  • Handball is not easy… It would take 3 months for U.S. pros to train and get acclimated
  • Handball is a game you invent to kill time at your office
  • But it looks like a really, really fun sport to play

Context and Analysis

I’m not a regular listener to the Pardon My Take podcast, but it’s a big time podcast. In fact, it’s the number one sports podcast in the U.S. and each episode gets between 750,000 and 1,500,000 downloads. That is a lot of listeners.

And, if it’s not obvious, the show is satirical. It is intended to be fun and the style and delivery of the two hosts, Big Cat and PFT Commenter, pokes fun at more serious sports shows. PFT Commenter, in particular, is playing a persona (not himself) and from time to time has had a few controversies. And, the defense has essentially been, well, that’s not me, that’s my persona.

So, the digs at handball, are mostly a mixture of shtick and ignorance. Mostly… There is also a bit of good ol’ fashioned American arrogance. Honestly, as the conversation bounced back and forth from somewhat rational analysis to absurdity it’s hard to think what they truly believe.

As an example they make the rationale point that the U.S. would be much better at rugby if we had our top American football players playing and… they grew up playing the sport. The last part of that analysis is key. I’m not a rugby expert, but I watch a bit, and if Lamar Jackson did grow up playing rugby he would be phenomenal. Much the same way LeBron James would be phenomenal at handball if he grew up playing it. But, to think that it would only take 3 months to put together an Olympic handball squad is… absurd. Yes, there’s quite a bit of difference between growing up playing the sport and a 3 month training camp.

The Proposed Pardon My Take Roster

The hosts also put together a hypothetical team simply using recurring guests on their show. Here’s every single name mentioned along with their their Age, Height, Weight and background:

  • Stu Feiner: ~60 year old sports handicapper (c’mon)
  • Jay Cutler: 36, 6’3″, 231 lbs, former NFL QB
  • Kyle Long: 31, 6’6″, 332 lbs, former NFL Offensive Guard
  • Phil Hughes: 33, 6’5″, 240 lbs, former MLB pitcher
  • Sam Dekker: 25, 6’9″, 219 lbs, basketball Forward for Lokomotiv Kuban (Russian League) (their proposed GK)
  • Blake Bortles: 27, 6’5″, 236 lbs, backup NFL QB (LA Rams)
  • Blake Griffin: 30, 6’9″, 250 lbs, NBA Forward (Detroit Pistons)
  • Brooks Koepka, 30, 6’0″, 209 lbs, Pro Golfer (“a maybe even” afterthought)
  • Danny Woodhead: 35, 5’8″, 204 lbs, former NFL running back
  • Matt Dellavedova: 29, 6’3″, 200 lbs, NBA guard (Cleveland Cavaliers) (Huh? He’s Australian)
  • Jared Goff: 25, 6’4″, 222 lbs, NFL QB (LA Rams)
  • Patrick Mahomes: 24, 6’3″, 230 lbs, NFL QB (Kansas City Chiefs)
  • Gary Busey or Samuel L Jackson (Potential coaches)

This is not a strong roster. The younger QBs (Bortles, Goff and Mahomes) would be fine players as would the two basketball players (Griffin and Dellavedova), but beyond that it’s pretty slim pickings. I suppose 36 year old Cutler could play a little. Dekker as a GK would be a disaster. I don’t think anyone is left handed too, so forget about the right side of the court.

A Challenge from USA Men’s Coach, Robert Hedin

USA Men’s National Team Coach, Robert Hedin has had enough and has issued the following challenge:

This sounds like a lot of fun. For sure it would be entertaining. And, if it’s the Pardon My Take roster above my money is on the U.S. With just 2 practices to prepare and no real goalie they would be hurting. The U.S. would be able to score pretty easily and I think the Pardon My Take team would only score on fast breaks. Keep the turnovers down and they have little chance at cracking 10 goals. Overall, I’m thinking a 40-7 scoreline.